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KSComs
07-14-2008, 09:52 AM
Hi there oh Epygi Guru's ...
I have been thinking what would make things a little easier and seeing the drop down menu system means it slows down the process of implementation of things like Pick Up groups etc .. it would make sense to have a flat file of extensions to be able to enable enmasse or even a range would be great ....
Either would be quicker than the current method of the drop down.
Already spoken to Greg from Alloy who gave me the thumbs up to put it here on the forum...:)
Regards
Kevin
davrays
07-14-2008, 01:25 PM
Hmm... truly saying, I didn't get the request...
What kind of drop-down worries you, Kevin? :)
And what means a "flat file of extensions"? I guess our terminology is a bit different :)
Probably you use the Aussie way of explaining things :D
KSComs
07-14-2008, 03:11 PM
:D Cooooeeee Cobber ....
Sorry for the vagueness of my conversation or Australianisms ... please see atached pictures.
KSComs
07-14-2008, 03:26 PM
With the drop down list, you have to make an entry 1 at a time where as if you had a flat file list or a range variable that would speed up processes of programming the Epygi for easier configuration... multiple ticks then enable.... or range of extensions to include etc....
When you play with a 2x its not so much of a problem but when you start with the 4x series or M32 .. then it becomes a more apparent reason as to my request.
Regards
Kevin
davrays
07-14-2008, 07:13 PM
Ok, got it :)
Frankly speaking, this is implemented already (as we had such a request from somebody before), but I didn't let it go into the official release yet because of one small very technical doubt... The "Pickup Group" and the "Paging Group" are implemented the same way (and share the same source code). The problem is - I want this new design (flat file of extension) for "Pickup Group", but not the "Paging Group". I don't want it to be easy to add users to "Paging Group" :) - as this is a heavy load on system, and the current design may prevent somebody from doing wrong things :)
I agree this is not too serious argumentation. Probably we will just limit the number of users allowed to add to "Paging Group", and then change the design for foth Pickup and Paging...
KSComs
07-15-2008, 03:43 AM
I hear Alloy have some ip PA systems that are better for that functionality anyway ... so it might be necessary to limit it to a few telephones rather than enmasse... and say anything more than x use a 3rd party solution for pa or Epygi develop there own ? ( *COUGH* rebadge ) :D
Regards
Kevin
davrays
07-15-2008, 01:55 PM
Which limitation is reasonable from your perspective, Kevin? I need some input from the field to find some good number. The it should be something between 4 and 10 extensions in a Paging Group. Do you think 4 will be too restrictive?
KSComs
07-15-2008, 04:51 PM
Which limitation is reasonable from your perspective, Kevin? I need some input from the field to find some good number. The it should be something between 4 and 10 extensions in a Paging Group. Do you think 4 will be too restrictive?
Well to be honest David...
If you take a leaf out of the standard telco systems they have a maximum of 8 paging groups and 1 all page group...
So if you were to set a standard and to put people in the right direction to let them know that a 3rd party PA system is advised then you could get away with saying 8 streams of 1 x virtual...
Then let the 3rd party PA system make the anouncement over its speakers..
So you have 1 PA device, 1 x Stream
It is my opinion that you really dont use Paging Zones in normal telephony due to the nature of what happens. All handsets shreak with an audible signal then usually someone belches out through the handset of the telephone and usually you have a customer close by or you are on the telephone and the caller hears the page.
Usually in the land of Oz the only PA is usually out to the warehouse dock area or in shopping centres... both of which are usually satisfied by legacy PA equipment but in the case of IP telephony you would have to use something like Cyberdata's -
VoIP Paging Amplifier http://www.alloy.com.au/images/010965_small.jpg
http://voip.alloy.com.au/docs/010965_VoIP_Paging_Amplifier_PoE_SIP.pdf
This means that you only have to have 1 x IP Stream of data going to a traditional PA system with no need for choking your LAN with Audio traffic notifying speakers on telephones when there is really no need.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Regards
Kevin
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